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    From Monastery To Mindful Government

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    Sean FargoPublished January 9, 2026 · Updated October 26, 2026 · 4 min read

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    What does a monastery, a couch, a non-alcoholic hazy IPA, and the Environmental Protection Agency have in common?

    In this short talk they belong to one story. Sean Fargo is a former Buddhist monk who founded Mindfulness Exercises and leads the Mindfulness Meditation Teacher Certification. He recorded it on his couch, with a non-alcoholic hazy IPA, to share news he says he still can’t fully wrap his head around.

    In From Monastery to Mindful Government, he explains why he left the monastery, describes how a senior EPA leader and several colleagues joined the certification, and says what he hopes comes next in federal agencies.

    He names climate change as his main reason for teaching mindfulness, and talks about mindfulness in workplaces and institutions. In his view, the science is clear that mindfulness helps reduce stress and anxiety.

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    Episode Overview:

    • Leaving monastic life: hugging family, hard-shelled tacos, and climate change
    • Mindfulness in the workplace, and why he says it has gone mainstream
    • Bringing mindfulness into healthcare and government institutions
    • EPA leaders enrolling in mindfulness certification
    • Climate change as his main reason for teaching mindfulness
    • Mindfulness passed from person to person inside an agency
    • Training trainers: certifying people to teach mindfulness
    • Taking workplace mindfulness home
    • Hope for mindfulness in the federal government

    Key Takeaway: Sean sees federal agencies’ interest in mindfulness as a sign of hope and optimism.

    Show Notes:

    Leaving the Monastery: When Practice Meets Real Life

    Sean was a Buddhist monk for a couple of years. He says he left for a few reasons. One was to hug his mom and sister again, since monks in his tradition do not touch women. Another was to eat hard-shelled tacos: in his tradition you cannot take a bite of food you are holding in your hands, so everything is cut first. “I like tacos,” he says. The bigger reason, he says, was climate change.

    He felt that teaching mindfulness could help people live with more consciousness, kindness, and empathy for animals and wildlife, and perhaps choose what they consume with more care for the planet.

    He then worked at Spirit Rock for five years and in healthcare for a couple of years, and he now leads the teacher training program that certifies people to teach mindfulness, hoping that teaching people how to teach will “make big waves around the world.”

    Why Mindfulness Belongs Inside Complex Institutions

    Sean says that twenty years ago not many companies or schools were exploring mindfulness, and that in the last twenty years there has been a “sea change” toward the mainstream.

    He describes mindfulness as helpful for senior leaders, managers, and people on the front lines, and mentions that several Navy SEALs have been in the certification program.

    A couple of weeks before recording, Sean got an email from a senior leader at the Environmental Protection Agency. She and a few colleagues are in the certification, and he says they are liking it and sharing mindfulness trainings throughout the EPA, which has thousands of people across the country. They would like to:

    • Enroll 15 or 20 more people in the next round of the certification
    • Spread mindfulness further around the EPA
    • Plant seeds for a “mindful Fed,” a mindfulness program for every federal agency

    Sean says, “The science is clear that mindfulness helps reduce stress and anxiety,” and adds that in his view it also fosters more empathic and compassionate communication and supports well-being.

    From One Leader to Many: How Mindfulness Spreads Inside Agencies

    The EPA leaders who enrolled are sharing mindfulness trainings across the agency and want to sign up more colleagues in the next round.

    Sean says other parts of government are also interested in the trainings:

    • The Forest Service
    • The Housing Department
    • The Navy

    Attention as a Shared Resource

    Under this theme, what Sean describes is mindfulness passed from person to person: leaders who learned it are now sharing it with colleagues across an agency.

    Training the Trainers: Scaling Without Losing Integrity

    Sean says the certification is built around training trainers: it certifies people to teach mindfulness, in the hope that teaching people how to teach will make big waves around the world.

    When Workplace Mindfulness Comes Home

    Sean says that when people learn mindfulness at work, they don’t leave it there: “It’s not like you put your mindfulness in your top cubby in your desk.”

    He says the more mindful we are at work, the more we can practice at home:

    • With a spouse, kids, and loved ones
    • In decisions about what we buy and what we eat
    • In how we talk to people

    A More Humane Vision of Public Service

    Sean calls the EPA’s interest a sign of hope and optimism for our future as a country, a planet, and a species.

    He thanks anyone making a positive difference, whether or not they teach mindfulness, and invites viewers to leave a comment about the good they are doing in the world.

    He says that when he left the monastery he could never have dreamed he would one day be helping people help others in the federal government, and that it feels like it has come full circle. He is grateful, he says, to be involved in a very small way.

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    Transcript

    Show transcript· 7 min read

    <a class="no-underline" href="#casual-check-in-and-setup">Casual Check-In And Setup</a>

    Hey everybody, hope you're doing well. I'm Sean from Mindfulness Exercises. I just got out of a long shower and crashed out here on the couch. Opened up my favorite beer that I like. It's a hazy IPA from Athletic Brewing Company, but it doesn't have any alcohol in it. I like the experience of beer, but I don't like getting buzzed or drunk anymore. I used to before I didn't. So anyway, I just wanted to share some news with you that I still can't quite wrap my head around fully. You know, a lot of people ask me why I left the monastery.

    <a class="no-underline" href="#life-as-a-monk-and-its-limits">Life As A Monk And Its Limits</a>

    So I was a Buddhist monk for a couple years, and I left the monastery for a couple reasons. One was to be able to hug my mom and my sister again, because as a monk I wasn't allowed to like touch women, and I just felt like I wanted to be able to hug my mom and my sister and you know spend holidays with family. And I also wanted to be able to eat hard-shelled tacos. I know that sounds funny, but as a monk, in the tradition I was in, which was in the same tradition as Jack Cornfield and a lot of other teachers, you can't eat things by taking a bite out of something while you're holding it with your hands. So you can't like hold a taco or a burger or something and take a bite out of it while you're using your hands. You have to like cut it first, and then whatever can fit on your fork or spoon or in your fingers, you have to be able to fit in your mouth in kind of a neat, tidy, elegant way, but you can't like bite something and and then put the rest of it down. Anyway, I digress. I like tacos.

    <a class="no-underline" href="#choosing-climate-action-and-mindful-work">Choosing Climate Action And Mindful Work</a>

    But but the the I guess the bigger reason why I left the monastery is because I felt like with the state of our planet, we needed help with climate change, really. I mean, there's a lot of growing anxiety and depression and stress and stuff around, you know, addiction, and there's so many challenges in the world, obviously. You know, politics, nuclear war. There's no shortage of challenges, but climate change just felt so important to me to be able to support in some way. And I kind of felt like teaching mindfulness was a way to help people to live with more consciousness, kindness, empathy for animals and wildlife. Maybe we could tailor what we consume that's a little bit kinder for the planet.

    <a class="no-underline" href="#training-teachers-to-multiply-impact">Training Teachers To Multiply Impact</a>

    And so, you know, I worked at Spirit Rock for five years, learning how to integrate and apply mindfulness to daily life. I worked in healthcare for a couple years, and you know, now I lead this mindfulness teacher training program that certifies people to teach mindfulness, hoping that by teaching people how to teach, that'll make big waves around the world. And

    <a class="no-underline" href="#epa-embraces-mindfulness">EPA Embraces Mindfulness</a>

    so I got this email a couple weeks ago from a senior leader at the Environmental Protection Agency, and she and a few of her colleagues are actually in my mindfulness meditation teacher training program where we certify people to teach mindfulness, and they're liking it and loving it, and they are sharing mindfulness trainings throughout the EPA, which has thousands of people across the country in it, and and they want to sign up like 15 or 20 more people in the next round in hopes to further spread it around the EPA and also to plant seeds for a mindful Fed, like a federal nationwide mindfulness program for like every federal agency of the US. And just on a personal level, it's I mean, it's surprising that the the federal government would be open to something like this because you know, twenty years ago, not many companies were even exploring this or schools. But in the last twenty years we've seen this sea change, pun not intended, where now it's much more mainstream.

    <a class="no-underline" href="#mindfulness-goes-mainstream">Mindfulness Goes Mainstream</a>

    The science is clear that mindfulness helps reduce stress and anxiety, fosters more empathic and compassionate communication, and just restores our well-being and our mental health and our physical health, and is really helpful for senior leaders, for management, for people sort of on the front lines. And so I guess it's surprising to me, you know, if you had told me that 20 years ago, but but it's just a an indication that this is the real deal, that mindfulness actually makes a big difference in organizations and companies and nonprofits

    <a class="no-underline" href="#gratitude-and-federal-momentum">Gratitude And Federal Momentum</a>

    and institutions. Like you see it in the military, you know, we've had several Navy SEALs in our certification program. You know, the places you might least expect it. And it's beautiful and inspiring to me. You know, and I I just feel really grateful to be involved in this in a very small way, but it feels really good because you know, again, when I left the monastery, I could never have dreamed that I would be helping people to help others in the federal government like this, with the Forest Service and the Navy, Housing Department. No, there's so many agencies interested now in these trainings that are kind of tied in with the this EPA, this mindful EPA program. And so it's kind of come full circle in a way, and I feel like it's sweet to like celebrate that, you know, and just continue my pledge to helping as many people as I can practice mindfulness and integrate it into more aspects of their life, you know, whether it's in the workplace or not. And obviously, when people learn mindfulness in the workplace, you don't leave it at the workplace. It's not like you put your mindfulness in your top cubby in your desk or put it under a paperweight or something. You bring it home because it's

    <a class="no-underline" href="#mindfulness-beyond-work">Mindfulness Beyond Work</a>

    it's in you. You know, it's in your body and your heart. And the more mindful we are at work, the more we can practice being mindful at home, with our spouse, with our kids, with our loved ones, with how we make decisions around what we buy, what we eat, how we talk to people. So, so yeah, so I just wanted to share that news. I feel really happy about

    <a class="no-underline" href="#hope-thanks-and-community-invitation">Hope, Thanks, And Community Invitation</a>

    it. I think it's a sign of like hope and optimism for our future as a country, as a planet, as a species. There's so many people doing so many good things in the world. You know, mindfulness, meditation teachers, and beyond. So, you know, whatever role you're playing in the world, whether you're a mindfulness teacher or not, you know, if you're making a positive difference in some way, thank you. We need more people doing good things, and and there are many, many people already doing good things. But I think there's a lot of signs of hope and optimism. Yeah, and let's continue planting these seeds for goodness. So, so yeah, those are my thoughts. I hope you're having a good day. Thanks for sticking with me here. I know this is a long video, but I guess I had a lot to share. Feel free to leave a comment below on what you think about this. You know, what good are you doing in the world? I think it'd be inspiring for other people to see what you're up to. You know, whether it's making people smile in some way, or if you're a therapist or a teacher, maybe you're doing business, doing something that feels worthwhile and fulfilling,

    <a class="no-underline" href="#farewell-and-ways-to-engage">Farewell And Ways To Engage</a>

    let me know. Let us know. Also, if you're interested in teaching mindfulness or getting certified to teach meditation, I'll put a link down below for that as well. If you have any questions, feel free to let me know. All right, well, cheers everybody. Take good care, and I'll see you again later. Bye.

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